Lewisham Gateway: more bus changes from 28 October 2014

The e-mail that was sent from the Lewisham Gateway developers to their mailing list this evening was exemplary!

Their e-mail clearly sets out exactly what changes are coming up to bus stops from 28 October, in far more understandable a format than has been seen previously, especially when it was left to TfL’s inadequate attempts to communicate complex information about the overall area using confusing, often truncated notices attached to individual stops and/or routes.

The only problem with the info is some confusion around east and west – these directions are switched throughout, as far as I can judge.

So, because the e-mail was so clear, I’m not going to duplicate the effort by writing about the changes myself. I hope they won’t mind me instead reproducing much of their e-mail here (with east and west corrected):


Lewisham Gateway Update

We’re making good progress in creating Lewisham Gateway, a stunning new development that will deliver hundreds of much-needed new homes, new jobs and a better connected town centre.

We are now entering the next phase in creating the new highways network, meaning we will re-open the Lewisham Police Station bus stop (stop E), but will need to suspend the stop closest to the Glass Mill Leisure Centre (stop F). More details are below, including a link to the map above.

We will also be holding our next ‘Meet the Contractor’ drop in event in a few weeks time, on 13 November from 17:30-19:30 in the foyer of the Glass Mill Leisure Centre.

Changes to buses – from 28 October to December 2014

From Tuesday 28 October changes to bus stops will affect routes 21, 47, 136, 225, 321, 436 and the N47 heading west and northwest.

From 28 October Bus Stop E (the Lewisham Police Station stop) next to Rennell Street, will re-open and bus stop F (Lewisham Station) located next to Loampit Vale will be suspended.

If you’re taking any of these services running north or westbound and usually use bus stop F (Lewisham Station) you will need to use one of the alternative nearby stops:

•    Bus stop E (Lewisham Police Station) for routes 21, 47, 136, 225, 321, 436 and the N47

•    Bus stop SG (Jerrard Street, Loampit Vale) for routes 21, 136, 321 and 436

•    Bus stop on Thurston Road for routes 47, 225 and N47

We anticipate that Bus Stop F is scheduled re-open in December 2014 and will be in touch again ahead of this with any further updates to bus stops.

Click here for a map showing where the alternative bus stops are and the bus routes affected.

South and eastbound services (i.e. those using bus stop FF) will not be affected.

Meet the Contractor drop in – 13 November

Want to find out more about what’s happening on our site, meet the team building Lewisham Gateway and let them know your thoughts on how the construction is going? Then please come to our next ‘Meet the Contractor’ drop in event.

When: Thursday 13 November from 5:30pm to 7:30pm

Where: Foyer of the Glass Mill Leisure Centre, 41 Loampit Vale, London, SE13 7FT. Click here for map

We’ll be further publicising the event closer to the time.

…And if the quality of that publicity sustains this standard, I look forward to that!

Lewisham Central Assembly, October 2014

Tonight Lewisham Central Assembly met at Albion Road Methodist Church just off the high street in the town centre.

Topics covered included Lewisham Council’s Big Budget Challenge, reports from organisations funded in the past, awarding of new funds to bidding organisations, and updates on things like Courthill Road pedestrian crossing and of course Lewisham Gateway.

You can read my full livetweeted coverage of it in this Storify compilation (which I’d like to have embedded here, as I’ve done in the past, but they’ve dropped the functionality to publish from Storify to WordPress, it seems).

Consultation round-up

Big Budget Challenge (until 22 Oct 2014)

There’s one big consultation central to the next four years of life in Lewisham borough, and that’s the council’s Big Budget Challenge – a chance to influence decision-making around cuts by actually trying things out in an interactive tool and seeing what the effect is on the council’s budget – and its services.

It’s not unique to Lewisham – for instance, here’s Bexley’s (recently ended) – but the figures here are particularly eye-watering. According to the tool, government cuts in council funding are such that to keep spending at current levels, Council Tax would have to rise next year by 103% – and that’s 103 percentage points more than were pledged in Steve Bullock’s manifesto, not to mention 101.1 percentage points more than the maximum legally permissible rise without an expensive referendum that no council has yet dared trigger.

The council will combine feedback from this tool with feedback gathered from residents at local assemblies (Lewisham Central’s is on 2 October) to determine how best to swing the axe so kindly delegated to councils by the government. Have a go now, if you can face it.

Brockley Corridor, Crofton Park etc (until 3 Oct 2014)

Straying a little from my Lewisham patch, but hey, can anyone think of any Brockley blogs? (Yes, I do know really.) The so-called “Brockley Corridor” is best thought of (to my bus-oriented mind, at least) as the bit of the 171 and 172 bus routes after they leave New Cross heading south.

Lewisham Council have obtained funding from TfL to make various ‘public realm’ improvements along this route, and we’re all invited to peruse a 9MB PDF and then answer a survey about it.

I don’t know the area that well myself but the principles of the plans look pretty reasonable on first skim – wider pavements, simpler crossings etc. should all help move the balance towards a better environment for pedestrians, hopefully!

East London river crossings (until 18 Sep 2014)

Finally, and most urgently, TfL’s mammoth consultation about river crossings from Woolwich to Belvedere shuts in two days. Again, not immediately in Lewisham, but anyone who’s tried to catch a bus through Lewisham town centre on a busy day during the Gateway roadworks will appreciate that the last thing we should be doing is trying to encourage more people into their cars, anywhere in the city, and certainly not in our south-eastern corner.

Also, TfL appear worryingly keen to scrap the free Woolwich Ferry, a lovely SE London institution – don’t miss your chance to object to this!

The No to Silvertown Tunnel campaign has written an excellent guide to responding to this consultation, so rather than repeat their advice here I shall just encourage you to follow this, and to do so quickly as you’ve only got two days left!

P.S. Barking to Thamesmead Overground extension: a river crossing to get behind? (until 19 Oct 2014)

As an addendum to the final consultation above, this petition sprang up today and makes a lot of sense.

TfL are currently consulting on the extension of the Overground’s Gospel Oak to Barking line to Barking Riverside, but why stop there? With all the talk in the previously mentioned consultation of the supposed need for river crossings joining east and south-east London, why not continue this line over (or under) the river and provide Thamesmead with a railway link?

If you agree, sign the petition and why not feed into the consultation as well?

Lewisham Gateway: met the contractors

On Thursday, I dropped into the foyer of Glass Mill and met various people at the Lewisham Gateway ‘meet the contractors’ event there.

It was pleasantly surprising that I think everyone I spoke to was aware of my blog! Likewise, there was a fair bit of holding up of hands and acknowledgement that things could be much improved on the communications front, which was encouraging to hear.

Perhaps because of my own transport bias, my most interesting chat was with a representative from Transport for London. He’s going to feed back that their communications of bus stop changes in Lewisham have simply not been good enough so far – as I said to him, I’ve heard more about the closure of Putney Bridge than of nearly all the main bus stops in my own town centre, and I’ve never been to Putney.

I also took the opportunity to raise with him the apparent trolling of Hither Green residents in the planned final Lewisham Gateway bus stop arrangements (see end of that post), whereby the 181 and 225 buses will continue to stop at entirely separate stops with another between them, as had long been the case before the Gateway works began, despite both heading next to Hither Green. He’s taking this back to TfL and our conversation left me optimistic that this may well be able to be resolved now it’s been flagged up (no bus stop pun intended).

On a less optimistic note, I also tried to clarify stopping arrangements for all the buses formerly terminating at Lewisham Station. These were all curtailed to stop E opposite the Police Station, but this is now closed itself and most of these buses now set down at Stop F outside Glass Mill, on their way to the bus stand on Thurston Road. This was previously ruled out by TfL for reasons given to me in response to a Freedom of Information request a few months ago. Accordingly, TfL’s thinking on this is all a bit unclear at the moment – indeed the TfL rep hadn’t been able to pin down an exact list of which buses were officially dropping off there now in time to bring it along with him to this event.

It seems TfL are still not keen on using stop F due to the potential congestion, but were left with little choice but to give it a go while stop E is closed. I hope they’re monitoring how much of the theoretical congestion manifests itself in reality during stop E’s closure and will review their decision not to use stop F going forward accordingly, but I fear it’s more likely they’ll simply revert to stop E when it reopens later this autumn without any review. Keep your fingers crossed, station-bound bus users!

I chatted too with a council officer, and with Lewisham Gateway’s communications person, the latter of whom said he’d look again at the inadequate information provided on the project’s news page. The TfL bus stop closures link they currently give provides no information at all about alternative stopping arrangements – I suggested that for as long as TfL’s communications are that poor, just linking to them was inadequate and they should instead be plugging the gap themselves.

It looked like there’d been a steady flow of visitors seeking information about the project, so hopefully these drop-in sessions will be a regular occurrence over the coming months as Lewisham Gateway progresses.

And there was one thing that everyone I asked completely agreed on: whether they had any meaningful influence whatsoever over Southeastern, the private railway company (renowned for its complete lack of interest in customer service in the London ‘Metro’ area) whose franchise has just been extended by the government for several years without competition or consultation. I knew the answer before I asked, but asked anyway, and sure enough, it’s a ‘no’. So don’t hold your breath for that Platform 4 gate at London’s tenth-busiest non-terminus railway station to be opened any time soon.

Meet the Lewisham Gateway contractors, Thursday 11 September – plus webcam!

Over a week after my last post, Lewisham Gateway’s official News page has had a minor update, providing a somewhat useful map of suspended bus stops and a link to the shorter version of the inadequate information about this on the Transport for London web site.

More excitingly, they also announced a drop-in “meet the contractors” event (not mentioned on their News page, though!) taking place in the foyer of Glass Mill leisure centre on Loampit Vale (SE13 7FT) tomorrow, Thursday 11 September, between 16.00 and 19.30. This should be well worth dropping in on if you’d like to find out more about progress. I certainly would so I’m hoping to make it along!

Latest Lewisham Gateway webcam image

And the most exciting new online development is a webcam overlooking the whole Lewisham Gateway site, from the top of the old Citibank tower above the shopping centre. A glorious view (including my own block of flats) and I look forward to watching whatever timelapse video they make with the pictures they record over the next couple of years!

Lewisham Gateway: communication breakdown

I’d love to be able to give you an update on what’s going on with all the bus stops and bus routes around the Lewisham Gateway site at the moment, but I can’t, because once again the developers are failing to announce or share what’s happening, or update their out-of-date News page.

I gather from a bus stop notice on TfL’s site (the only such notice attached to any of the stops in the Lewisham Gateway area on TfL’s system, despite all the changes) that stop E – the one opposite the police station where all the station-bound buses had been terminating – is now closed for two months, until 28 October, for ‘planned pavements works’, but it seems no part of that plan was to announce this anywhere else.

I hear from a follower on Twitter – and saw to my own surprise in the case of an 89 yesterday – that buses may now be setting down passengers at stop F outside Glass Mill leisure centre, but this directly contradicts what TfL had told me was possible before, and I can find nothing to say this is officially happening anywhere, so goodness knows if that’s just kind bus drivers or official policy. I also saw a 208 setting down passengers at stop P, by the clock tower, this evening; if that’s where buses to Lewisham Station are now officially terminating, that’ll be very unpopular as it’s even more of a walk than stop E was.

89 at Lewisham station bus stop F

Update: while the bus stop notice linked above ends at ‘planned pavements works’, there’s a far longer notice available on each individual route, bizarrely, which reads as follows:

LEWISHAM HIGH STREET SE13: Routes 21 47 54 75 89 108 122 136 178 180 181 185 199 208 225 261 273 284 321 380 436 484 P4 N21 N47 N89 N136 from 1000 Tuesday 26th August until 1530 Tuesday 28th October will not serve Bus Stop Lewisham Police Station (E) due planned pavements works. Routes 108 178 261 N89 will serve nearest Bus Stop Lewisham Clock Tower (P) located on Lee Bridge Road. Routes 21 47 54 75 89 122 136 180 181 185 199 208 225 273 284 321 380 436 484 P4 N21 N47 N136 will serve nearest Bus Stop Lewisham Station (F) on Loampit Vale.

So it seems the use of stop F is official, despite contradicting TfL’s previous explanation. Long may it continue – they’ll surely struggle to justify returning all those buses to terminating at the far less convenient police station after this! (Although that notice includes some routes which never served stop E anyway, like 180 and 199, and certainly won’t be serving stop F, which they don’t go past.)

Stops F and FF (opposite F) have supposedly been shut between 10.00 and 15.30 daily since 1 August, but I’ve seen nothing to suggest that is happening. Here’s a related and somewhat impenetrable TfL “Status alert for route 21″:

LEWISHAM HIGH STREET/MOLESWORTH STREET SE13 – ROUTES 180 199 273 380: From 1000 Monday 4 August until 1500 Monday 29 September August, buses will not served Stops F and FF due to roadworks.

Quite why a “Status alert for route 21″ begins with a list of routes which aren’t route 21, and don’t serve the mentioned stops, I don’t know. It then goes on to specify a time period which we are well into and says the stops will be closed for all of it – I assume it’s meant to say 10.00-15.00 daily, not just that entire period, but either way, the stops are still open today, almost a month into that time. I look forward to it ending on “Monday 29 September August”.

Stops A and B, on either side of Lewisham Road near Maggie’s, were meant to have the same daytime closure arrangement in place from 21 July, but didn’t, then suddenly became completely closed 24/7 earlier this month, without warning.

And throughout all these changes, all the official Lewisham Gateway News page has mustered is an update, still unaltered, about the daytime changes to stops A, B, F and FF that haven’t happened in the way described, and an update about noise levels from sheet piling. I signed up for their e-mail updates from the start and have not received any of those since 18 July either.

But hey, when you’re dealing with dozens of bus routes interchanging with the tenth busiest non-terminus railway station in Greater London, why would anyone need to be kept informed?

Lewisham Gateway: more bus stop changes from now

You may not have heard about this, because Transport for London certainly haven’t made any effort to tell you, but further bus stop changes kick in around Lewisham Station from tomorrow, 21 July 2014, as major work progresses on the Lewisham Gateway development site.

Bus stops affected by temporary changes during summer 2014

Bus stops affected by temporary changes during summer 2014

Bus stop changes – details

Starting now, bus stops A and B – the ones called Lewisham Station which are located near Maggie’s, opposite each other on Lewisham Road – will be closed every day of the week between 10.00 and 15.30, until 18 September. These are the stops served by the 180, 199, 273 and 380 bus routes, in each direction.

Furthermore – and you get a little more notice on this – bus stops F and FF, also called Lewisham Station, located outside and opposite Glass Mill leisure centre on Loampit Vale, will also be closed every day of the week between 10.00 and 15.30, from 1 to 31 August 2014. Stop F is served by the 21, 47, 136, 225, 321 and 436 as they leave Lewisham town centre to head towards New Cross or Deptford. Stop FF is where routes 21 and 436 drop passengers off before they end their journeys behind the shopping centre on Molesworth Street.

You can see these stops, all with variously incorrect names (apparently because TfL told the developers the wrong stop names), on this map the developers have made.

Very unimpressively, today, less than a day before the first closure, there was no mention anywhere on or near stops A and B that these daily closures are happening at all. I’m told responsibility for such publicity lies firmly with Transport for London, but they haven’t even got an electronic message into their online stop-specific Countdown system, let alone publicity near the stop. Clearly there are a lot of ‘partner organisations’ involved in this development but if one party is singularly failing to provide timely information, perhaps it’s time for another to step in and stick up a couple of posters?

Latest photos

Lewisham Gateway progress, 19 July 2014

I’ve published another 35 or so photos from around the site over the past couple of weeks into the usual place – the top of my Lewisham Gateway album on Flickr. (All the photos have captions which you should be able to see on the web version of Flickr, at least – I think these days the apps and mobile version don’t make it easy to see the captions unfortunately.)

The photos include clear signs of work on the new Station Road, which I also tried to document on Vine on 17 July but the following short clip seemingly failed to publish successfully, so you can enjoy it here in non-looping format instead!

Consultation exhibition

Yesterday I attended the Lewisham Gateway consultation exhibition in Lewisham shopping centre and met several of the people running various aspects of the project.

Lewisham Gateway consultation exhibition

Sadly, I don’t have time to write up what we spoke about now (and I do mean sadly; I’d far rather do that than go and iron the shirts that have just finished in the washing machine). So that’ll have to wait for my next post…

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